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touched her during these sessions?
A.
She became more emotional. The more she had to
talk about some of the worse things that happened to her she
became upset about it.
Q.
You wee explaining earlier that
said she
was approximately 14 when this began. Did she tell you
whether she ever had any conversations with Epstein about
her age?
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A.
Yes.
Q.
What did she tell you?
A.
She said that she told him she was 14.
Q.
Have you asked
what Epstein's house was
like?
A.
Yes.
Q.
How did she describe it to you?
A.
She gave a lot of detail about the house. She
talked about the office having a round desk in it, she
talked about the massage room had the massage table, it had
lotions, it had moisturizers. On the walls there were
sketches or paintings of naked females on them. And she
also talked about a library in his residence that looked
like it was something from out of Beauty and the Beast.
Q.
Is that how she described it to you?
A.
Yes.
Q.
So we've been talking about what you've learned
during interviews with
. Just to take a step back,
how did you first establish contact with her?
A.
My partner and I located her at her residence.
Q.
her?
What did she say to you when you first approached
A.
She was very nervous when we first talked to her.
And she told us that she was 16, she went and massaged
Epstein and he masturbated and he didn't touch her.
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Q.
And again, what was her demeanor like when she
said this to you?
A.
She was very nervous.
She was just very anxious while we
were speaking with her.
Q•
Were you able to conduct a full interview of her
at that time?
A.
No.
Q•
At a later point were you able to conduct full and
thorough interviews with her?
A.
Yes.
Q.
And once you finally were able to interview her
did you ask her why she said that when you first approached
her?
A.
Yes.
Q.
What did she explain to you?
A.
She told us that she didn't even really remember
what she had told us initially because she was so nervous,
she was so worried. She was really concerned that if she
talked to us she was going to go to jail, so she was really
worried about being in trouble.
Q.
Did there come a point in time when Epstein asked
to bring other girls to him?
A.
Yes.
Q.
What happened?
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A.
She did. She reached out to other girls that she
knew to see their interest.
Q.
I want to ask you a little bit about what
told you about her role in bringing other girls to Epstein.
Let me first just ask, in general, how would she
find new girls?
A.
She would meet them through friends of friends.
She met them in clubs, different social settings.
Q.
In general, what kinds of things would she tell
them about what to expect?
A.
She told them that they would have to give a
massage either with their underwear on or nude; that he
would want his nipples touched and that he would masturbate.
Q.
Would she tell them anything about payment?
A.
Yes.
Q.
What would she tell them?
A.
She'd tell them that they would get $300 for
massaging him.
Q.
Did
have a sense, in general, of the ages
of the ages of the girls that she brought to Epstein?
A.
She estimated around approximately 13, 14-year
olds to 17-year olds. They were mostly underage girls that
she brought. She did bring a couple that were 18.
Q.
Approximately how long did she participate in
bringing girls to Epstein?
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Approximately three years of the three years :hat
she went.
Q.
So approximately how old was she when this
stopped?
A.
Seventeen.
Q.
During that time period, over those three years
approximately, did she have a sense of about how many girls
she brought over the years to Epstein's house?
A.
She estimated approximately 20 to 50 girls.
Q.
Did she work with anyone else in recruiting girls
for Epstein?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Who did she work with?
A.
Another girl her age,
(ph).
Q.
Who is
A.
She was a friend of
's that was living with
her at the time.
Q.
Turning to slide 5. Did
provide you with
this photograph?
A.
Yes.
Q.
And what did she explain to you about this
photograph?
A.
That this is -- that that's
on the left and
that's
on the right. They were approximately 16-
years old at that time the picture was taken.
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